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PostSubject: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:58 am

http://www.northwestindiana.com/discussionforum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=3549&sid=87199100fd7e197a92b6e0d17c827a66

I think the real answer needs to consider how long will it take the RBA to get it's act together and how upfront it will be about how to pay for the shortfall of revenue. I oppose the F&B tax entirely!

As far as the true needs riders if we eliminate buses we could probably work out an arrangement with the North Township Dial-a-Ride to cover that with expended service and still save money overall. We also probably should seek a cab company to cover certain unmet needs. But I just don't see paying for empty buses to further clog up our streets in Hammond. If the buses must roll I'd rather find some way to eliminate fares as a 1-year test project and see if we can increase ridership by just giving the service away, or it may tell us that people just hate buses and will not use them at all. If a free bus service will still only half fill buses then I think it's time to go back to the drawing board and re-think what truly is a need and what just sounds like it would be nice to have.
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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:03 pm

I still think if Hammond and East Chicago merged their services, it would be utilized. Otherwise I say "NO". I never see any more that five people on a bus on a given day.

And why are the buses from the Nashville (TN?) airport?

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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:39 am

I agree. Buses are a waste of local tax money in a time where we need all of the revenue we can hang on to.
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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:13 am

I have a mixed view. Naturally people need treansportation but with the amount the city is giving to the RDA it makes no sense to have a bus system limited to just Hammond. I believe and hope that the RDA will be forced to address this issue especially if EC and Gary drop theirs...which I admit will have to be pried from their cold broke hands.
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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:39 pm

The RDA needs to get involved, but sadly they cannot until ever city that has one gives them up and then the RDA can step in and fix the mess
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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:16 pm

well i think gary is going to be forced to give its up next year. and i cant imagine ec being able to hold on to theirs much longer either. so maybe there is hope.
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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:12 pm

When there is no bus service anywhere, the RDA can step in, take over and run a trial program interconnecting the cities, including Valpo
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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:59 am

You think there was a fuss down at Gary council chambers over the budget before just kill those buses and the peeps will be tossing more than shoes! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:28 am

Mirage wrote:
You think there was a fuss down at Gary council chambers over the budget before just kill those buses and the peeps will be tossing more than shoes! Wink


Until gary gets rid of it, the RDA is powerless to implement a regional bus service

Then again, the RDA could run a trial without Gary, and not allow Gary tickets to count, so if they want to go from Gary to say Merrillville, they will have to pay twice, then maybe Gary will drop their bus service
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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:51 am

Not sure what you mean by pay twice exactly. Does Hammond even still have transfer fares? It's been literally a decade since I rode the thing. I figured with the transfer of buses it would be 2 separate fares anyway, unless maybe you had a monthly pass.

Well anyway I'm sure the bus thing will be headlines in Jan & Feb as they try to shove that F&B tax down out throats to pay for it. Again, I oppose giving any taxing authority to an unelected board, which effectively that proposal would be doing even if not technically.
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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:00 pm

Mirage wrote:
Not sure what you mean by pay twice exactly. Does Hammond even still have transfer fares? It's been literally a decade since I rode the thing. I figured with the transfer of buses it would be 2 separate fares anyway, unless maybe you had a monthly pass.

Well anyway I'm sure the bus thing will be headlines in Jan & Feb as they try to shove that F&B tax down out throats to pay for it. Again, I oppose giving any taxing authority to an unelected board, which effectively that proposal would be doing even if not technically.


What I mean is if the RDA does implement a regional bus line that interconnects the major cities(Hammond, EC, Merrillville/Hobart, Valpo), and Gary does not want to participate, do not allow tranfers to the people using Gary's buses.

I know that it may seem cruel, but I bet the outcry over that will force Gary to turn their bus service over to the RDA
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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:34 pm

I think transfers is a bigger issue on the monthly pass commuters. Still there are a number of riders now and there's no out of city transfer system in place. At least I don't think so.

If the sole sticking point were Gary I don't see why they couldn't set up the rest of the county and then let Gary come begging to be included later. The citizens would then put pressure on the pols to make it happen. But knowing Rudy he'd probably demand "a piece of the action" before agreeing to turn the operation over. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:09 pm

But he wouldn;t be able to

If I could take thebus from say Valpo to Merrillville, I would. But I wouldn't if I had to use the V-Line to go to a stop, then get picked up by another bus and pay again
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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:48 pm

Great point made recently is the need for a very good taxi service. This may be a very lucrative business for someone with the money to get it started.
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PostSubject: Re: Hammond Buses - Should They Keep Rolling?   Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:27 am

Guess that would depnd on how low gas prices stay. If they just up to 3 something a gallon again, it wouldn't be easy.
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